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Just went to download Acrobat reader and found that it's an enormous 37MB
download just for something to read pdf files (curiously the same file
size whether I tell the site to give me the normal or basic versions,
which suggests a problem).

Anyone know if the Adobe site is broken at present? (Reason I ask this is
that I installed Acrobat on a system just a couple of weeks ago and I
swear I didn't sit through a 37MB download...)

ps. have tried xpdf and the various other alternatives in the past and
none of them seem to cope well with pdf files containing large (multi-MB)
images...

cheers

Jules

Jules wrote:
> Just went to download Acrobat reader and found that it's an enormous 37MB
> download just for something to read pdf files (curiously the same file
> size whether I tell the site to give me the normal or basic versions,
> which suggests a problem).

That's funny. Mine is bigger than that:

40104508 Mar 26 10:36 AdbeRdr70_linux_enu.tar.gz

which expands to:

$ ls -R
..:
Browser Reader Resource bin


../Browser:
Browser_Plugin_HowTo.txt install_browser_plugin intellinux


../Browser/intellinux:
nppdf.so


../Reader:
AcroVersion Cert GlobalPrefs HowTo JavaScripts Legal Messages
WebSearch help intellinux


../Reader/Cert:
curl-ca-bundle.crt


../Reader/GlobalPrefs:
AttachmentPerms URLPerms


../Reader/HowTo:
ENU


../Reader/HowTo/ENU:
Engineering07.html Hanko03.html HowTo03.html Review.html Review07.html
Review14.html Review22.html Sign06.html
Forms.html Hanko04.html HowTo04.html Review01.html Review08.html
Review16.html Review23.html Sign07.html
Forms01.html Hanko05.html HowTo05.html Review02.html Review09.html
Review17.html Review28.html Sign09.html
Forms02.html HowTo.html HowTo06.html Review03.html Review10.html
Review18.html Sign.html Sign11.html
Hanko.html HowTo00.html HowTo07.html Review04.html Review11.html
Review19.html Sign02.html Sign13.html
Hanko01.html HowTo01.html HowTo08.html Review05.html Review12.html
Review20.html Sign04.html images
Hanko02.html HowTo02.html Images Review06.html Review13.html
Review21.html Sign05.html


../Reader/HowTo/ENU/Images:
1.gif C_UpOneLevel_Lg_N.png crossouttxt.gif
measure_loop.gif selecttext.gif
2.gif addfile.gif dimensionlinetool.gif
notes.gif sendemailreview.gif
3.gif areatool.gif distance.gif
obj_data.gif showmenu.gif
4.gif arrow_nxt.ai distancetool.gif
office_convert.gif snapshot.gif
5.gif arrow_prev.ai ebookonline.gif
office_email.gif stamp.gif
6.gif attach.gif forms.gif
office_review.gif thumbnailview.gif
7.gif attach_comment.gif handtool.gif
perimeter.gif tip.gif
8.gif bkgrnd_art.gif highlighter.gif
readebook.gif touchupobj.gif
C_HelpGreenButton_Lg_N.gif bullet.gif layerisvisible.gif
rectangle.gif underlinetxt.gif
C_MoreTopics_Lg_N.gif callout.gif listview.gif
replycomments.gif zoomintool.gif


../Reader/JavaScripts:
JSByteCodeLin.bin WebSearch.js


../Reader/Legal:
ENU


../Reader/Legal/ENU:
License.html license_ENU_uc.txt


../Reader/Messages:
ENU RdrMsgSplash.pdf


../Reader/Messages/ENU:
RdrMsgENU.pdf


../Reader/WebSearch:
WebSearchENU.pdf


../Reader/help:
ENU


../Reader/help/ENU:
README Reader.pdf


../Reader/intellinux:
SPPlugins bin lib plug_ins res

../Reader/intellinux/SPPlugins:
ADMPlugin.apl

../Reader/intellinux/bin:
acroread

../Reader/intellinux/lib:
libACE.so libBIB.so.1.1 libadobelinguistic.so.2.0.0
libagli18n.so.28 libcurl.so
libACE.so.2.07 libCoolType.so libaglcnv.so
libagli18n.so.28.0 libcurl.so.2
libAGM.so libCoolType.so.5.01 libaglcnv.so.28
libagluc.so libcurl.so.2.0.2
libAGM.so.4.14 libJP2K.so libaglcnv.so.28.0
libagluc.so.28 libssl.so
libAXE16SharedExpat.so libResAccess.so libagldata.so
libagluc.so.28.0 libssl.so.0
libAXE8SharedExpat.so libResAccess.so.0.1 libagldata.so.28
libcrypto.so libssl.so.0.9.6
libAXSLE.so libWRServices.so libagldata.so.28.0
libcrypto.so.0
libBIB.so libadobelinguistic.so.2 libagli18n.so
libcrypto.so.0.9.6

../Reader/intellinux/plug_ins:
Accessibility.api Annotations EFS.api MakeAccessible.api SOAP.api
SendMail.api ewh.api
AcroForm Annots.api EScript.api PDDom.api
SaveAsRTF.api Spelling.api wwwlink.api
AcroForm.api DigSig.api LegalPDF.api PPKLite.api
SearchFind.api checkers.api

../Reader/intellinux/plug_ins/AcroForm:
acrobat7.xdc

../Reader/intellinux/plug_ins/Annotations:
Stamps

../Reader/intellinux/plug_ins/Annotations/Stamps:
ENU Words.pdf

../Reader/intellinux/plug_ins/Annotations/Stamps/ENU:
Dynamic.pdf SignHere.pdf StandardBusiness.pdf

../Resource:
CMap Font Icons Linguistics Support

../Resource/CMap:
Identity-H Identity-V

../Resource/Font:
AdobePiStd.otf CourierStd.otf MinionPro-Regular.otf
MyriadPro-Regular.otf ZY______.PFB
CourierStd-Bold.otf MinionPro-Bold.otf MyriadPro-Bold.otf PFM
CourierStd-BoldOblique.otf MinionPro-BoldIt.otf MyriadPro-BoldIt.otf
SY______.PFB
CourierStd-Oblique.otf MinionPro-It.otf MyriadPro-It.otf
ZX______.PFB

../Resource/Font/PFM:
SY______.PFM zx______.pfm zy______.pfm

../Resource/Icons:
AdobeReader.png

../Resource/Linguistics:
LanguageNames Providers

../Resource/Linguistics/LanguageNames:
DisplayLanguageNames.en_US.txt

../Resource/Linguistics/Providers:
Proximity

../Resource/Linguistics/Providers/Proximity:
brt04.lex brt0402.lex brtphon.env can32.clx eng32.clx usa86.lex
usa8602.lex usa8604.lex
brt0401.lex brt32.clx can112.lex canphon.env engphon.env usa8601.lex
usa8603.lex

../Resource/Support:
AdobeReader_GNOME.desktop AdobeReader_KDE.desktop

../bin:
acroread
trillian:jdbeyer[/usr/local/Adobe/Acrobat7.0]$



>
> Anyone know if the Adobe site is broken at present? (Reason I ask this is
> that I installed Acrobat on a system just a couple of weeks ago and I
> swear I didn't sit through a 37MB download...)
>
> ps. have tried xpdf and the various other alternatives in the past and
> none of them seem to cope well with pdf files containing large (multi-MB)
> images...
>
> cheers
>
> Jules
>


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Adobe has recently released 7.0 version of their PDF reader.
see this article
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050412/116133.html?.v=1

The version you downloaded probably was the earlier 5.0 version.

On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 22:53:12 -0700, paljsingh wrote:

> Adobe has recently released 7.0 version of their PDF reader.
> see this article
> http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050412/116133.html?.v=1
>
> The version you downloaded probably was the earlier 5.0 version.

Hmm, almost certainly not... looking at the downloads for other platforms,
it seems like the 'full' version is around 40MB (same as for Linux), but
the 'basic' version is typically around 10MB (whilst the Linux basic
version is *still* 40MB)

Looks like a faulty link prob and someone's pointed the Linux basic
version at the wrong file... not sure what my chances of reaching a human
being at Adobe to query the problem are though!

Mind you, I just tried selecting dial-up as the connection; this *only*
offers the basic version - but still says it's 37MB. I wonder if someone
found a serious bug in the basic version and it's been taken offline until
it's fixed (would be nice if it said so on the website if that's the case!)

At least v. 5.0 is still available via their site, so I think I'll just do
that... clone on 40MB for a PDf reader is a little too bloated for my
tastes! :-)

cheers

Jules

On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 18:16:56 -0400, Jean-David Beyer wrote:

> Jules wrote:
>> Just went to download Acrobat reader and found that it's an enormous 37MB
>> download just for something to read pdf files (curiously the same file
>> size whether I tell the site to give me the normal or basic versions,
>> which suggests a problem).
>
> That's funny. Mine is bigger than that:
>
> 40104508 Mar 26 10:36 AdbeRdr70_linux_enu.tar.gz

Hmm, you're right - that's just over 38MB - whilst in bytes it comes out
as 39467776 here. I suppose it does show that they're screwing around
with the releases though...

FWIW, I just tried joining the Adobe forums to ask there, but their login
system seems broken at the moment - and it lists the contact email for
login problems as 'userforum@adobe.com' in the welcome email, but
'userforums@adobe.com' on the website. I doubt both are right.

Furthermore it lists 'onlinefiles@adobe.com' as a help address for file
download issues - yet sending an email to that gets a bounce back saying
'no such user'.

You'd think such a successful company would be a little more organised in
the support department. Back to version 5 of reader for me I think! :-)
(which as I recall works well enough, apart from a nasty 'feature' in
the install that tries to change ownership of the directory that the
install files are in)

cheers!

Jules

Jules wrote (in part):

> You'd think such a successful company would be a little more organised in
> the support department. Back to version 5 of reader for me I think! :-)
> (which as I recall works well enough, apart from a nasty 'feature' in the
> install that tries to change ownership of the directory that the install
> files are in)
>
I quit using version 5 because I could not print many files. Acrobat thought
it printed them, but the print filter or print spooler would just quit
without a trace, or would start printing and just hang in the middle of a page.

I would get similar problems in different files, or different places, with
xpdf (which I basically do not like: the user interface sucks).

Version 7 seems better than version 5.

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