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Where should a file like MIME-Lite-3.01.tar be installed ? /sbin
/usr/sbin ????

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 06:45:11 -0500, Ed Stankevich <whoha@med.umich.edu> wrote:
>
>
> Where should a file like MIME-Lite-3.01.tar be installed ? /sbin
> /usr/sbin ????
>

Is that the source for an executable? If so, you should untar it in
your home directory, or /usr/src and compile it from there as root.

Make will install the compiled binary where it belongs, usually with-
out any need to edit it.

../configure
make
make-install

are usually the commands your run from the source directory to do the job.

Read the README. That's why they call it that :-)


AC

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On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 12:28:21 GMT,
Alan Connor <zzzzzz@xxx.yyy> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 06:45:11 -0500, Ed Stankevich <whoha@med.umich.edu> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Where should a file like MIME-Lite-3.01.tar be installed ? /sbin
>> /usr/sbin ????
>>
>
> Is that the source for an executable? If so, you should untar it in
> your home directory, or /usr/src and compile it from there as root.

No, it should only be compiled as a user to prevent errors from
screwing up your OS installation. The only time you run it as root
is when you install the binaries.

>
> Make will install the compiled binary where it belongs, usually with-
> out any need to edit it.
>
> ./configure

../configure --help
for installtion options.

> make

su -
password:

> make install


>
> are usually the commands your run from the source directory to do the job.
>
> Read the README. That's why they call it that :-)
>
>
> AC
>

--
Best Regards, Keith
NW Oregon Radio http://kilowatt-radio.org/
http://linux.com http://freebsd.org http://apple.com

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 15:57:48 -0000, Keith <kilo_watt_radio@earthlink.net.SPAM> wrote:
a

The Archives are a very important part of the Usenet.

Why do you want to keep your posts out of it?

So you can post things and then deny later that you did?

Complete post:

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From: Keith <kilo_watt_radio@earthlink.net.SPAM>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Where to install tar files?
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 15:57:48 -0000
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On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 12:28:21 GMT,
Alan Connor <zzzzzz@xxx.yyy> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 06:45:11 -0500, Ed Stankevich <whoha@med.umich.edu> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Where should a file like MIME-Lite-3.01.tar be installed ? /sbin
>> /usr/sbin ????
>>
>
> Is that the source for an executable? If so, you should untar it in
> your home directory, or /usr/src and compile it from there as root.

No, it should only be compiled as a user to prevent errors from
screwing up your OS installation. The only time you run it as root
is when you install the binaries.

>
> Make will install the compiled binary where it belongs, usually with-
> out any need to edit it.
>
> ./configure

../configure --help
for installtion options.

> make

su -
password:

> make install


>
> are usually the commands your run from the source directory to do the job.
>
> Read the README. That's why they call it that :-)
>
>
> AC
>

--
Best Regards, Keith
NW Oregon Radio http://kilowatt-radio.org/
http://linux.com http://freebsd.org http://apple.com

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 22:52:45 GMT,
JJ Fields <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 15:57:48 -0000, Keith <kilo_watt_radio@earthlink.net.SPAM> wrote:
> a
>
> The Archives are a very important part of the Usenet.
>
> Why do you want to keep your posts out of it?
>
> So you can post things and then deny later that you did?
>
> Complete post:
>

It is IP that I am posting to usenet and Google can not use my IP
to generate income. It is that simple.



--
Best Regards, Keith
NW Oregon Radio http://kilowatt-radio.org/
http://linux.com http://freebsd.org http://apple.com

Here in comp.os.linux.setup,
Keith <kilo_watt_radio@earthlink.net.SPAM> spake unto us, saying:

>It is IP that I am posting to usenet and Google can not use my IP
>to generate income. It is that simple.

While I think you should be free to use the X-no-archive: header as you
wish, it does detract from the long-term usefulness of your postings.

I still use USENET searches via Google extensively even as a somewhat
experienced Linux user. I've even searched for old USENET postings of
my own so I don't have to retype the same long answers again in other
forums. :-)

While I don't like having others make money off my postings either, to
me the availability of the information is more important than the fact
that Google might be making money. They are also providing the USENET
archive to me (and everyone else) as a free service, making it a fairly
even trade as far as I'm concerned.

Just putting my two cents on the table... YMMV, of course.

--
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OS/2 + eCS + Linux + Win95 + DOS + PC/GEOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
Applications analyst/designer/developer (14 yrs) seeking employment.
See web site above for resume/CV and background.

Alan Connor wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 06:45:11 -0500, Ed Stankevich <whoha@med.umich.edu> wrote:
>
>>
>> Where should a file like MIME-Lite-3.01.tar be installed ? /sbin
>>/usr/sbin ????
>>
>
>
> Is that the source for an executable? If so, you should untar it in
> your home directory, or /usr/src and compile it from there as root.
>
> Make will install the compiled binary where it belongs, usually with-
> out any need to edit it.
>
> ./configure
> make
> make-install
>
> are usually the commands your run from the source directory to do the job.
>
> Read the README. That's why they call it that :-)
>
>
> AC
>
OK, wrong question. After doing perl Makefile.PL, make test, and make
install on the MIME-LITE tar output nmap-audit install complains that it
can not find MIME? Should I get the tar.gz package again and try it
again or is there something I'm missing?

"Keith" <kilo_watt_radio@earthlink.net.SPAM> wrote in message
news:103nkcc4m5t7ud9@news.supernews.com...
> On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 22:52:45 GMT,
> JJ Fields <nospam@nospam.nospam> wrote:
> > On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 15:57:48 -0000, Keith
<kilo_watt_radio@earthlink.net.SPAM> wrote:
> > a
> >
> > The Archives are a very important part of the Usenet.
> >
> > Why do you want to keep your posts out of it?
> >
> > So you can post things and then deny later that you did?
> >
> > Complete post:
> >
>
> It is IP that I am posting to usenet and Google can not use my IP
> to generate income. It is that simple.

That's..... insane. "I want my books on the shelf of the library, but I want
the covers ripped off so no one can find them there."

If you don't want your Usenet posts archived, don't post.

Keith writes:
> It is IP that I am posting to usenet and Google can not use my IP to
> generate income. It is that simple.

Why is it ok for every ISP in the world plus newsguy, supernews, etc to
generate income from your "IP" but not Google?
--
John Hasler
john@dhh.gt.org
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin

Keith wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 12:28:21 GMT,
> Alan Connor <zzzzzz@xxx.yyy> wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 06:45:11 -0500, Ed Stankevich
>> <whoha@med.umich.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Where should a file like MIME-Lite-3.01.tar be installed ? /sbin
>>> /usr/sbin ????
>>>
>>
>> Is that the source for an executable? If so, you should untar it in
>> your home directory, or /usr/src and compile it from there as root.
>
> No, it should only be compiled as a user to prevent errors from
> screwing up your OS installation. The only time you run it as root
> is when you install the binaries.

It *should* be as simple as you describe. But often it's not.

Unfortunately, the environment of a typical user is often radically
different from the basic root configuration appropriate to such
compilations. Personal use of ~/bin in your PATH, odd LD_LIBRARY_PATH
settings that the root user cannot even use because that environment
variable is ignored, CC settings for variant compilers, etc. can cause all
sorts of grief when you then do the installation as a root user. And many
"install" tools insist on re-linking the binaries for installation, lest
libraries change under you or due to fascinating games with libraries not
being available for linking without special "-L" options until the
software's associated libraries are installed in /usr/lib or /usr/local/lib.

Examples of such delightful wackiness include the installation of
alternative gcc compiler variants and the installation of OpenSSL, and the
installation of the ".el" files for emacs. This is why package managements
are so very, very useful: they allow you to follow how an expert did the
local, not-necessarily-root compilation and how the package should be
installed with what privileges to be able to run correctly, even if the
author of the tarball wasn't thinking along those lines.