I know this is a Windows question, But I think this a better place to
ask...

I have finally got a Linux running. I can see and access the Windows
(XP & 98) machines from Linux but cannot see the Linux machine from a
Windows machine.

A point in the right direction please?

John Ferrell W8CCW

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John Ferrell wrote:
> I know this is a Windows question, But I think this a better place to
> ask...
>
> I have finally got a Linux running. I can see and access the Windows
> (XP & 98) machines from Linux but cannot see the Linux machine from a
> Windows machine.
>
> A point in the right direction please?

You are a bit confused. That's normal for a newbie.

If you have successfully configured your network, then access is bi-directional.
You just aren't using the right tools.

- From Windows, you should be able to "see" linux
as a web server, if you run a web server service on Linux, or
as an FTP server, if you run an FTP server service on Linux, or
as a Secure Shell server, if you run an SSH server service on Linux, or
well, you get the picture.

You are likely "looking" for the Linux system through your Windows "Network
Neighbourhood" (or equivalent). Network Neighbourhood "looks" for a very limited
subset of services; primarily Novell Netware server services and Microsoft
Networking server services.

Have you started either a Novell Netware server or a Microsoft Networking server
on your Linux system? For Microsoft Networking server, you start Samba. For
Novell Netware server, you start mars-nwe




- --
Lew Pitcher
IT Specialist, Enterprise Data Systems,
Enterprise Technology Solutions, TD Bank Financial Group

(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employers')
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On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 19:21:14 GMT, John Ferrell
<johnferrell@sprintmail.com> wrote:
> I know this is a Windows question, But I think this a better place to
> ask...
>
> I have finally got a Linux running. I can see and access the Windows
> (XP & 98) machines from Linux but cannot see the Linux machine from a
> Windows machine.
>
> A point in the right direction please?
>
> John Ferrell W8CCW

When you say "cannot see", do you mean you can't ping the machine, or
see it in "Network Neighborhood", or what? You probably need to set up
samba. Which Linux distro do you have?

[I may be off line for a while, just got the new Ubuntu CD]

--
Why do we have two eyes? To watch 3-D movies with.

John Ferrell wrote:
> I know this is a Windows question, But I think this a better place to
> ask...
>
> I have finally got a Linux running. I can see and access the Windows
> (XP & 98) machines from Linux but cannot see the Linux machine from a
> Windows machine.
>
> A point in the right direction please?
>
> John Ferrell W8CCW

If you mean that the Windows network system sees the
Linux computer as a part of the network, you have to
teach the Linux box to speak Windowsese, called SMB.

You need to:

- make the Windows boxes to use SMB over TCP/IP,
- install Samba server to the Linux box.

I would not do it. A working SSH package in the Linux box
and WinSCP package in the Windowses is good enough for me.

--

Tauno Voipio (OH2UG)
tauno voipio (at) iki fi

I was hoping for some kind of "silver bullet" that would attach
Windows through the Network Neighborhood route.

It would seem that I need to find a copy of SAMBA and install it to
the system. This is yet another thing I have not done, so back to the
web for more instruction!

I thought I had it in place, but I cannot find it on the system.

On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 14:59:51 -0500, Lew Pitcher <Lew.Pitcher@td.com>
wrote:

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>John Ferrell wrote:
>> I know this is a Windows question, But I think this a better place to
>> ask...
>>
>> I have finally got a Linux running. I can see and access the Windows
>> (XP & 98) machines from Linux but cannot see the Linux machine from a
>> Windows machine.
>>
>> A point in the right direction please?
>
>You are a bit confused. That's normal for a newbie.
>
>If you have successfully configured your network, then access is bi-directional.
>You just aren't using the right tools.
>
>- From Windows, you should be able to "see" linux
>as a web server, if you run a web server service on Linux, or
>as an FTP server, if you run an FTP server service on Linux, or
>as a Secure Shell server, if you run an SSH server service on Linux, or
>well, you get the picture.
>
>You are likely "looking" for the Linux system through your Windows "Network
>Neighbourhood" (or equivalent). Network Neighbourhood "looks" for a very limited
>subset of services; primarily Novell Netware server services and Microsoft
>Networking server services.
>
>Have you started either a Novell Netware server or a Microsoft Networking server
>on your Linux system? For Microsoft Networking server, you start Samba. For
>Novell Netware server, you start mars-nwe

The Distro I am using is a Knoppix 3.7 loaded to a Hard drive. I
understand that is not a legitimate configuration but it was
reasonable to get up and running. I last visited Linux with Red Hat
8.0 with a bad experience trying to get by unsupported hardware.

Knoppix seems to get me by that problem. The hardware is an ASUS A7N8X
MB with an AMD 2K CPU. The video card is an ATI All-in-Wonder 9600.

I expect to need a different distro but I was hoping I might learn a
little more this time before hitting an impassible problem.

I do appreciate you guys offering assistance without the BS that a lot
of other Newbies have had to endure.

Net view from windows does not show this machine.
I have not figured out how to find out the address to ping for the
Linux machine.

Getting past the problem of getting an LCD monitor running today was
no small feat!


On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:01:30 -0500, Bill Marcum <bmarcum@iglou.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 19:21:14 GMT, John Ferrell
> <johnferrell@sprintmail.com> wrote:
>> I know this is a Windows question, But I think this a better place to
>> ask...
>>
>> I have finally got a Linux running. I can see and access the Windows
>> (XP & 98) machines from Linux but cannot see the Linux machine from a
>> Windows machine.
>>
>> A point in the right direction please?
>>
>> John Ferrell W8CCW
>
>When you say "cannot see", do you mean you can't ping the machine, or
>see it in "Network Neighborhood", or what? You probably need to set up
>samba. Which Linux distro do you have?
>
>[I may be off line for a while, just got the new Ubuntu CD]

The Windows machines do not see the Linux box but it is sharing the
network to get on the inernet and it has full access to the files on
the windows machines.

I believe my next problem is to figure out how to get SAMBA and
install it!

Now I am going to look up SSH and WinSCP ....


On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:27:56 GMT, Tauno Voipio
<tauno.voipio@INVALIDiki.fi> wrote:

>John Ferrell wrote:
>> I know this is a Windows question, But I think this a better place to
>> ask...
>>
>> I have finally got a Linux running. I can see and access the Windows
>> (XP & 98) machines from Linux but cannot see the Linux machine from a
>> Windows machine.
>>
>> A point in the right direction please?
>>
>> John Ferrell W8CCW
>
>If you mean that the Windows network system sees the
>Linux computer as a part of the network, you have to
>teach the Linux box to speak Windowsese, called SMB.
>
>You need to:
>
> - make the Windows boxes to use SMB over TCP/IP,
> - install Samba server to the Linux box.
>
>I would not do it. A working SSH package in the Linux box
>and WinSCP package in the Windowses is good enough for me.

"John Ferrell" <johnferrell@sprintmail.com> wrote in message
news:so6qn1pm36j7tj783h8vp2regghcc7fanp@4ax.com...
>I was hoping for some kind of "silver bullet" that would attach
> Windows through the Network Neighborhood route.
>
> It would seem that I need to find a copy of SAMBA and install it to
> the system. This is yet another thing I have not done, so back to the
> web for more instruction!

Which Linux distribution did you install? Different versions of Linux have
different ways of installing this.

"John Ferrell" <johnferrell@sprintmail.com> wrote in message
news:t27qn15e7kkaegtqtfdptf6srv5ch2r995@4ax.com...
> The Distro I am using is a Knoppix 3.7 loaded to a Hard drive. I
> understand that is not a legitimate configuration but it was
> reasonable to get up and running. I last visited Linux with Red Hat
> 8.0 with a bad experience trying to get by unsupported hardware.
>
> Knoppix seems to get me by that problem. The hardware is an ASUS A7N8X
> MB with an AMD 2K CPU. The video card is an ATI All-in-Wonder 9600.

Fedora Core 4 or CentOS 4.2 would be peachy-keen-happy on that hardware, I
think. Knoppix also has updates available, to version 4.x, and the
full-blown DVD version of it may have a Samba server.

> Net view from windows does not show this machine.
> I have not figured out how to find out the address to ping for the
> Linux machine.

net view won't show it, until it's running Samba or something like it. On
the Linux box, you can run "/sbin/ifconfig -a" and look at the IP addresses
of all the different network ports. Do read the manual pages on the ifconfig
command, it's useful.

>
> Getting past the problem of getting an LCD monitor running today was
> no small feat!

Oh, you have my sympathies there. Some no-name monitor, right?

I think the monitor to be a pretty good one. It is a Microtek 710S. I
have had good experience with Mikrotek in the past.

I believe the monitor grief was not a common problem, but common
enough to have fixes that I could find in Google. Part of the problem
was the exotic video card. The ATI 9600 may not see much use in Linux
boxes. Switching back & forth with a CRT monitor and rebooting was
very time consuming and frustrating.

On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 21:38:33 -0500, "Nico Kadel-Garcia"
<nkadel@comcast.net> wrote:

>
>"John Ferrell" <johnferrell@sprintmail.com> wrote in message
>news:t27qn15e7kkaegtqtfdptf6srv5ch2r995@4ax.com.. .
>> The Distro I am using is a Knoppix 3.7 loaded to a Hard drive. I
>> understand that is not a legitimate configuration but it was
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>
>Oh, you have my sympathies there. Some no-name monitor, right?
>