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Old 01-16-2008, 11:58 AM
Peter Lemmond
 
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Default Internal disk problems on Ultra-80



I loaned out a working, 2-yr old Ultra-80, worked fine for another 5
months, then the borrower reported that the internal system disk (18GB
IBM) died. When it came back to me, I found I could probe-scsi-all and
see the disk correctly, but when accessing later would always report
"...Sense Key: Not Ready...", "...ASC: 0x4 (LUN Not Ready)...". Same in
either lower or upper slot. So I bought another disk (18GB Seagate), and
I get the same result (probe-scsi-all passes, but can't access). Same in
either slot, tried disks in both slots, same thing. I think I ran and
passed the Openboot (3.23) SCSI test (came back with "TEST=selftest"),
no other problem.

I can attach an external SCSI disk, access is normal.

Any ideas? Trying these disks in a different Ultra-80 or Ultra-60 might
be possible, though a hassle, and would need to be 100% sure no damage
could possibly occurr to the test system.

BTW, this system is/was running Solaris 8. I've been using the Sol8 Boot
CD for testing.

Thanks,
-Peter

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Old 01-16-2008, 12:01 PM
Dr. David Kirkby
 
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Default Re: Internal disk problems on Ultra-80

Peter Lemmond wrote:
>
> I loaned out a working, 2-yr old Ultra-80, worked fine for another 5
> months, then the borrower reported that the internal system disk (18GB
> IBM) died. When it came back to me, I found I could probe-scsi-all and
> see the disk correctly, but when accessing later would always report
> I can attach an external SCSI disk, access is normal.
>
> Any ideas? Trying these disks in a different Ultra-80 or Ultra-60 might
> be possible, though a hassle, and would need to be 100% sure no damage
> could possibly occurr to the test system.
>
> BTW, this system is/was running Solaris 8. I've been using the Sol8 Boot
> CD for testing.
>
> Thanks,
> -Peter


It is certainly odd. Luckily I've never seen anything like that in my
U80. Here are a few of my thoughts - they might at be some help.

It sounds like the internal SCSI bus has developed a fault. There is a
dual channel controller on that machine, with one channel used
internally and one used externally. So the fact your external disk works
is not surprising, since they are on different buses.

Are you booting from an internal CD or an external one ? The internal CD
uses the same scsi bus as the internal disks, whereas an external CD
would not. If you are using an internal CD, it could be a fault on the
CD that is mucking up the SCSI bus. It might be worth removing the
internal CD and checking it it boots okay without that.

I'm not about to pull the side off of mine, but is there a cable between
the motherboard and the backplane to where the drives plug in? If so, it
might be worth removing that and replugging it back in. If I recall
correctly, there's a cable that plugs onto the internal CD that has the
termination on that.

Do you have a Sun disk you could try it with ?

The OBP you have is not the latest, so it might be worth trying an
upgrade, although it suggests the there is a hardware fault. Just be
100% sure the media that you use to upgrade it from (i.e. boot disk) is
functioning okay, although there is a way of recovering a failed upgrade
on the U80.

--
The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day
they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge.

Dr. David Kirkby,
Senior Research Fellow,
Department of Medical Physics,
University College London,
11-20 Capper St, London, WC1E 6JA.
Website: http://www.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/~davek
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