"Andrew Hardy" <junkmail@[127.0.0.1]> a écrit dans le message de
news:c7nm36$5qe$1@sun-cc204.lut.ac.uk...
> Hi,
>
> We're using an E450: 'Sun Enterprise 450 (4 X UltraSPARC-II 296MHz)'
> with 1Gb of RAM as a development platform.
>

We recently replaced a similar UE 450 2Gb RAM machine by a Sun 280R (1.2 Ghz
single CPU, 5Gb RAM) and found the machine to perform as good (if not
better) than the 450. Technology (eg. disks) as improved a lot since the
450, that gives a good boost in performance.

I would not run anything else than solaris or Linux on the Intel Platform,
otherwise, your CPU will be busy managing the GUI and useless stuff instead
of your database. But other people may actually like windows for whatever
reason (maybe they have MSFT stock :-)

G Dahler wrote:

> "Andrew Hardy" <junkmail@[127.0.0.1]> a écrit dans le message de
> news:c7nm36$5qe$1@sun-cc204.lut.ac.uk...
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>We're using an E450: 'Sun Enterprise 450 (4 X UltraSPARC-II 296MHz)'
>>with 1Gb of RAM as a development platform.
>>
>
>
> We recently replaced a similar UE 450 2Gb RAM machine by a Sun 280R (1.2 Ghz
> single CPU, 5Gb RAM) and found the machine to perform as good (if not
> better) than the 450. Technology (eg. disks) as improved a lot since the
> 450, that gives a good boost in performance.
>
> I would not run anything else than solaris or Linux on the Intel Platform,
> otherwise, your CPU will be busy managing the GUI and useless stuff instead
> of your database. But other people may actually like windows for whatever
> reason (maybe they have MSFT stock :-)
>
>

If you go to a site like Dell or Red Hat, you should be able to find
some white papers with Oracle performance test comparisons to Sun (and
probably other competing vendors).

We have done several tests of both batch and transactional processing
and found that a shiny new Intel/Linux box vastly out-performs the
five-year-old Sun/Solaris hardware we use. Vendor support is a
different and less positive story, however...

--Mark Bole

Mark Bole wrote:

> G Dahler wrote:
>
>> "Andrew Hardy" <junkmail@[127.0.0.1]> a écrit dans le message de
>> news:c7nm36$5qe$1@sun-cc204.lut.ac.uk...
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We're using an E450: 'Sun Enterprise 450 (4 X UltraSPARC-II 296MHz)'
>>> with 1Gb of RAM as a development platform.
>>>
>>
>>
>> We recently replaced a similar UE 450 2Gb RAM machine by a Sun 280R
>> (1.2 Ghz
>> single CPU, 5Gb RAM) and found the machine to perform as good (if not
>> better) than the 450. Technology (eg. disks) as improved a lot since the
>> 450, that gives a good boost in performance.
>>
>> I would not run anything else than solaris or Linux on the Intel
>> Platform,
>> otherwise, your CPU will be busy managing the GUI and useless stuff
>> instead
>> of your database. But other people may actually like windows for
>> whatever
>> reason (maybe they have MSFT stock :-)
>>
>>
>
> If you go to a site like Dell or Red Hat, you should be able to find
> some white papers with Oracle performance test comparisons to Sun (and
> probably other competing vendors).
>
> We have done several tests of both batch and transactional processing
> and found that a shiny new Intel/Linux box vastly out-performs the
> five-year-old Sun/Solaris hardware we use. Vendor support is a
> different and less positive story, however...
>
> --Mark Bole
>
>

I bet a shiny new Sun would outperform a five year old Sun, too.


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CJT <abujlehc@prodigy.net> wrote in message news:<409FBEC3.8040804@prodigy.net>...
> Mark Bole wrote:
>
> > G Dahler wrote:
> >
> >> "Andrew Hardy" <junkmail@[127.0.0.1]> a écrit dans le message de
> >> news:c7nm36$5qe$1@sun-cc204.lut.ac.uk...
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> We're using an E450: 'Sun Enterprise 450 (4 X UltraSPARC-II 296MHz)'
> >>> with 1Gb of RAM as a development platform.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> We recently replaced a similar UE 450 2Gb RAM machine by a Sun 280R
> >> (1.2 Ghz
> >> single CPU, 5Gb RAM) and found the machine to perform as good (if not
> >> better) than the 450. Technology (eg. disks) as improved a lot since the
> >> 450, that gives a good boost in performance.
> >>
> >> I would not run anything else than solaris or Linux on the Intel
> >> Platform,
> >> otherwise, your CPU will be busy managing the GUI and useless stuff
> >> instead
> >> of your database. But other people may actually like windows for
> >> whatever
> >> reason (maybe they have MSFT stock :-)
> >>
> >>
> >
> > If you go to a site like Dell or Red Hat, you should be able to find
> > some white papers with Oracle performance test comparisons to Sun (and
> > probably other competing vendors).
> >
> > We have done several tests of both batch and transactional processing
> > and found that a shiny new Intel/Linux box vastly out-performs the
> > five-year-old Sun/Solaris hardware we use. Vendor support is a
> > different and less positive story, however...
> >
> > --Mark Bole
> >
> >
>
> I bet a shiny new Sun would outperform a five year old Sun, too.

particularly one with 4 Opterons under the hood, with a penguin inside.

Pd

"Paul Drake" <drak0nian@yahoo.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:1ac7c7b3.0405101322.7a8820d3@posting.google.c om...
>
> particularly one with 4 Opterons under the hood, with a penguin inside.
>

The OP problem is that he does not want to pay for the 4 processor licence.

CJT wrote:

> Mark Bole wrote:
>
>> G Dahler wrote:
>>
>>> "Andrew Hardy" <junkmail@[127.0.0.1]> a écrit dans le message de
>>> news:c7nm36$5qe$1@sun-cc204.lut.ac.uk...
[...]
>> We have done several tests of both batch and transactional processing
>> and found that a shiny new Intel/Linux box vastly out-performs the
>> five-year-old Sun/Solaris hardware we use. Vendor support is a
>> different and less positive story, however...
>>
>> --Mark Bole
>>
>>
>
> I bet a shiny new Sun would outperform a five year old Sun, too.
>
>

I agree, but probably won't have the chance to find out hands-on...

I have had to listen to a development manager claim, in all sincerity:

"With [hardware platform X] we'll be able to write better SQL code,
since we won't have to deal with performance tuning so much".

Sigh.

--Mark Bole

In article <mA5oc.24445$FH5.724330@news20.bellglobal.com>,
"G Dahler" <yellow-shark@spamex.com> wrote:

> "Paul Drake" <drak0nian@yahoo.com> a écrit dans le message de
> news:1ac7c7b3.0405101322.7a8820d3@posting.google.c om...
> >
> > particularly one with 4 Opterons under the hood, with a penguin inside.
> >
>
> The OP problem is that he does not want to pay for the 4 processor licence.

If you think that is bad, try the SAS licenses for sun machines.
Let's see: a U1 has more workunits than a U10. Go figure...

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