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Old 01-16-2008, 05:24 PM
Pete
 
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Default Recommended and Security Patch Clusters require Service Plan?

Seems like I now need a Sun Service Plan to download Recommended and
Security Patches for Solaris 10??

Has anyone else noticed this?



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Old 01-16-2008, 05:24 PM
Darren Dunham
 
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Default Re: Recommended and Security Patch Clusters require Service Plan?

Pete <pete@server30077.uk2net.com> wrote:
> Seems like I now need a Sun Service Plan to download Recommended and
> Security Patches for Solaris 10??


You do not need a service plan to access Security patches. That message
(perhaps the only one) from Sun has been consistent.

While I've heard that access to non-security patches may be restricted
to service plan subscriptions, it doesn't seem to have happened yet.
The patches page of sunsolve takes me right there....

http://sunsolve.sun.com/pub-cgi/pdow...ecommended.zip
http://sunsolve.sun.com/pub-cgi/pdow...ecommended.zip

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Old 01-16-2008, 05:24 PM
Tim Bradshaw
 
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Default Re: Recommended and Security Patch Clusters require Service Plan?

On Mar 15, 10:44 am, Pete <p...@server30077.uk2net.com> wrote:
> Seems like I now need a Sun Service Plan to download Recommended and
> Security Patches for Solaris 10??


You do not. Despite the hype and confusion I don't think even Sun
have ever said this although their message has not been exactly clear,
and approximately 1 billion newsgroup posters *have* said this. What
you do need is a sunsolve login (or whatever it is now called), but
such a login does not need to be associated with a contract /
subscription.

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Old 01-16-2008, 05:24 PM
peter
 
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Default Re: Recommended and Security Patch Clusters require Service Plan?

Darren Dunham wrote:
> Pete <pete@server30077.uk2net.com> wrote:
>> Seems like I now need a Sun Service Plan to download Recommended and
>> Security Patches for Solaris 10??

>
> You do not need a service plan to access Security patches. That message
> (perhaps the only one) from Sun has been consistent.
>
> While I've heard that access to non-security patches may be restricted
> to service plan subscriptions, it doesn't seem to have happened yet.
> The patches page of sunsolve takes me right there....
>
> http://sunsolve.sun.com/pub-cgi/pdow...ecommended.zip
> http://sunsolve.sun.com/pub-cgi/pdow...ecommended.zip


Are you sure ? I am able to download the security and kernel patches, but not the patch-clusters.

When I try the http://sunsolve.sun.com/pub-cgi/pdow...ecommended.zip
link, I get a page like :


Registered users, please sign in!

You have selected an update which is available to registered SunSolve users with a valid Sun Service
Plan.

In order to download this update you need to sign in to access SunSolve. If you are a new user to
SunSolve, you can register today if you have a Sun Support contract number or a Solaris 10
Entitlement Token.

If you are a new user of Solaris 10, you can get access to all Solaris 10 updates with purchase of a
Sun Service Plan.


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Old 01-16-2008, 05:24 PM
Darren Dunham
 
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Default Re: Recommended and Security Patch Clusters require Service Plan?

peter <peter_vancamp@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Darren Dunham wrote:
>> http://sunsolve.sun.com/pub-cgi/pdow...ecommended.zip
>> http://sunsolve.sun.com/pub-cgi/pdow...ecommended.zip


> Are you sure ? I am able to download the security and kernel patches, but not the patch-clusters.


> When I try the http://sunsolve.sun.com/pub-cgi/pdow...ecommended.zip
> link, I get a page like :


Well, I'm sure I get data, but I don't know why there's a difference
between our logins.

Of those two links, the x86 is 206.6MB and the SPARC is 229.5MB.

I'm logged in with my personal account that has no service plan
associated with it. I can't even search for non-public documents in the
document area. I just double-checked the "Contracts and Licenses" link
and there are no contracts associated with my login.

???

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Old 01-16-2008, 05:24 PM
Tim Bradshaw
 
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Default Re: Recommended and Security Patch Clusters require Service Plan?

On Mar 16, 1:18 pm, peter <peter_vanc...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Are you sure ? I am able to download the security and kernel patches, but not the patch-clusters.
>
> When I try thehttp://sunsolve.sun.com/pub-cgi/pdownload.pl?target=10_Recommended.zip
> link, I get a page like :
>
> Registered users, please sign in!


Have you made a sunsolve account and signed in? It looks to me like
you probably have not.

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Old 01-16-2008, 05:24 PM
gerryt
 
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Default Re: Recommended and Security Patch Clusters require Service Plan?

On Mar 16, 6:18 am, peter <peter_vanc...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Darren Dunham wrote:
> > Pete <p...@server30077.uk2net.com> wrote:
> >> Seems like I now need a Sun Service Plan to download Recommended and
> >> Security Patches for Solaris 10??

> > You do not need a service plan to access Security patches. That message
> > (perhaps the only one) from Sun has been consistent.

Youve been lucky : >
> > While I've heard that access to non-security patches may be restricted
> > to service plan subscriptions, it doesn't seem to have happened yet.
> > The patches page of sunsolve takes me right there....
> >http://sunsolve.sun.com/pub-cgi/pdow...x86_Recommende...
> >http://sunsolve.sun.com/pub-cgi/pdow...ecommended.zip

> Are you sure ? I am able to download the security and kernel patches, but not the patch-clusters.


I cannot download 10 cluster anything with my non paid for login id...
At least not from the above link. A paid for ID does work fine.
Impressive

It wouldnt surprise me a bit if some people can and some cant given
Suns abysmal handling of sunsolve/service plan issues over the past
nearly 2 years now.

The recent post from the "business owner" didnt inspire a whole lot of
confidence that things are going to get better soon - if ever with
that lot
running things.

O - stay tuned - 8 and 9 patches are about to go non free too. I can
hardly wait to
see the results of that change (not). Isnt it odd that service goes
down the tubes when
they start to charge for it?? And they just cant seem to sort it
out..?

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Old 01-16-2008, 05:24 PM
Dave (from the UK)
 
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Default Re: Recommended and Security Patch Clusters require Service Plan?

Tim Bradshaw wrote:
> On Mar 16, 1:18 pm, peter <peter_vanc...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>Are you sure ? I am able to download the security and kernel patches, but not the patch-clusters.
>>
>>When I try thehttp://sunsolve.sun.com/pub-cgi/pdownload.pl?target=10_Recommended.zip
>>link, I get a page like :
>>
>>Registered users, please sign in!

>
>
> Have you made a sunsolve account and signed in? It looks to me like
> you probably have not.
>


I can't download them - my usual account, without a service plan does
not allow it. This is what I get:


-------
Registered users, please sign in!

You have selected an update which is available to registered SunSolve
users with a valid Sun Service Plan.

In order to download this update you need to sign in to access SunSolve.
If you are a new user to SunSolve, you can register today if you have a
Sun Support contract number or a Solaris 10 Entitlement Token.

If you are a new user of Solaris 10, you can get access to all Solaris
10 updates with purchase of a Sun Service Plan.




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Old 01-16-2008, 05:24 PM
Steven N. Hirsch
 
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Default Re: Recommended and Security Patch Clusters require Service Plan?

Tim Bradshaw wrote:
> On Mar 16, 1:18 pm, peter <peter_vanc...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Are you sure ? I am able to download the security and kernel patches, but not the patch-clusters.
>>
>> When I try thehttp://sunsolve.sun.com/pub-cgi/pdownload.pl?target=10_Recommended.zip
>> link, I get a page like :
>>
>> Registered users, please sign in!

>
> Have you made a sunsolve account and signed in? It looks to me like
> you probably have not.


I had precisely the same experience as the OP. Thanks to a suggestion I
discovered an update script that automagically pulls down patches
individually to achieve the same effect as a patch cluster.

Check archives for this newsgroup for recent postings from me and you'll
be able to chase the link.

Steve


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Old 01-16-2008, 05:24 PM
Oscar del Rio
 
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Default Re: Recommended and Security Patch Clusters require Service Plan?

Dave (from the UK) wrote:
> I can't download them - my usual account, without a service plan does
> not allow it. This is what I get:
>
>
> -------
> Registered users, please sign in!


I had that problem with a VERY OLD account. I registered a new account
and I can download all patches and clusters fine. (no service plan)
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